Saturday, August 02, 2008

A Change of Plans

All my years in politics and journalism has lead me to make my latest career move. I have been pondering upon this change of careers for quite some time now, and after talking with my colleagues, family and many of my closest friends in Washington, I have made a decision to leave Know Thy Facts, Not Thy Neighbors (KTFNTN) in order to make a difference. I know it may be late in the game, but America needs someone who will stand up for traditional marriage and family and fight for a federal amendment to the U.S. Constitution to protect marriage as we know it.

Thank you all for your comments on this blog and for your passion to speak your thoughts and express your opinions to us all.
KTF will still be active, but without my commentary. My staff will take over and will keep you all up to date as to what the marriage front brings us.
God bless you all, and remember, Let The Tricks Be Known!!
Please play the following media report for futher details and thank you for your support.:

20 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Looks like this is one candidate who is coming up from behind" LOL

Funny Scia haha

Ken Weaver

10:53 PM, August 02, 2008  
Anonymous omd said...

You have my vote! This will be the beginning of a 2nd Amendment ground swell where We the People rid ourselves of a government bent on a course towards tyranny.

5:32 AM, August 03, 2008  
Blogger John Hosty-Grinnell said...

Ummm, someone should tell omd that this video was a joke. ;)

Now see Scia, we all had a laugh TOGETHER. We are not as different as you either think or want to believe. Food for thought.

4:25 PM, August 04, 2008  
Blogger SCIA said...

John,

You said:

"We are not as different as you either think or want to believe."

We are all the same in our sin John, something Christ does NOT love or accept. Therefore we ask for his forgiveness and "sin no more" (Jesus)

8:16 PM, August 10, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is vanity or arrogance a sin?

Ken Weaver

10:29 PM, August 10, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing that really fuels my distrust of anything Christian is the different lies they tell to prove their faith. One guy I talked to talked about some mysterious sounds of hell that were recorded when some guys in Siberia did some drilling and when they came to a point where their drills were spinning free they lowered a microphone down the hole and heard eerie sounds that were like millions of people screaming. It was later proved to be a complete fabrication. Yet some people still try to pass it off as fact. Another guy I talked to was trying to prove how dinosaurs and people coexisted and his proof was some Peruvian Inca stones that had images engraved into them interacting and in some cases using different dinosaurs as beasts of burden i.e. a triceratops with a bridle plowing a field. This too was proved to be completely false. Yet some still use that “fairy tale” as factual evidence. Even a family member was duped into believing a quote from George Washington that he got from a priest or some other religious leader. “The thing that sets the American Christian apart from all other people in the world is he will die on his feet before he’ll live on his knees.” This was a complete lie set up to sound patriotic and Christian. George Washington said no such thing. The original quote from Emilio Zapata said nothing about Christian either.

Why all the lies? If Christians are so sure of their beliefs why would they need to fabricate blatant lies to convince people their particular religion is real? Isn’t lying a sin, or do the ends justify the means if it means conversions to the faith? Or do not all Christians believe as you “Therefore we ask for his forgiveness and "sin no more" (Jesus)”

Ken Weaver

11:38 PM, August 10, 2008  
Blogger John Hosty-Grinnell said...

Indeed Ken, I ask too, "Why all the lies?"

Scia says, "We are all the same in our sin John, something Christ does NOT love or accept. Therefore we ask for his forgiveness and "sin no more" (Jesus)

Yet while proclaiming that we are all sinners you feel the need to say that my sins are bigger than yours, or that I am not following Christ's path as well as you.

Hubris. The epitome of arrogance. You are no light of Christ and you certainly are not pure enough to pass judgment on others. Get the log out of your own eye before you try and help me with the splinter in mine.

Scia, you continue to sin too. Our difference is that what you see as my sin I do not see as anything but what God wants for me. He wants me to be happy with who He made me as, He knew what He was doing. I trust in Him and I am happy to be gay.

You on the other hand look at life like it was a burden. You fester over how your neighbors conduct themselves even when it has no bearing what so ever on your life. Envy consumes you. The failures of your own heart are what pains you, not anyhting the GLBT community is doing.

You will continue to suffer so long as you hold on to hate like it was your God.

12:16 PM, August 11, 2008  
Anonymous omd said...

John, I know it was a joke as I was the one that sent it aong to Scia. I was playing along. Although I do believe we need to rid ourselves of a government running head long towards tyranny.

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You ask why? Because people lie, plain and simple. Man cannot be trusted. How many times must I say that before it sinks in? Mankind is a fallen race.

Why do evolutionists pass off Darwins 'theories' as fact when they are not?

Why did Carl Sagan mislead people by indicating he had the truth instead of mere theories?

BECAUSE MANKIND LIES!!! People want to believe so much that they are right, that they have the answers. ALL mankind, Christian & non-Christian.

If you will read John [right after Luke] you will discover why Jesus {God in human form} came to this Earth. You will discover who Jesus says He is. You will also descover that He did not come for every human that has live, now lives or will live. He came for those that were given to Him by God, the Father. God wants none to perish but wants all to experince His everlasting love amd kingdom.

Ken,John you seem to place your understanding in the hands of mankind's self imposed wisdom. That's like hiring a plumber to be your lawyer. I suggest you seek the writings of a R.C. Sproul or a D. James Kennedy or Ravi Zacharious (sp?) from the modern era. Scia and I also represent Jesus as best we can and we do not intentionally mislead anyone reading this blog that scia moderates. Please do not place either of us in that same catagory as those that would intentionally mislead [which neither of you has done] Read Romans Chap 1 & 2 for the Bible's teaching rearding those that intentionally mislead.

This is why it is better to trust in God than man.

God's grace and peace to you

OMD

4:53 PM, August 13, 2008  
Anonymous omd said...

Am away on vacation this week and will reply to your comments when I return John.

4:56 PM, August 13, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Why do evolutionists pass off Darwins 'theories' as fact when they are not?

Why did Carl Sagan mislead people by indicating he had the truth instead of mere theories?”

I don’t believe you know what a theory is if you can say “mere theories”. I’m sorry if your Christian leaders have misled you, but the theory of evolution is no less factual than the theories of gravity or electricity. There is a new show on the History Channel called Evolve; I suggest you watch it if you really want to know what evolution is. You must also understand that god is not a theory, that myth is not worthy of that name; god is a mere hypothesis. Something you should understand about evolution is the FACT that it is supported on many levels by different scientists in different categories. Archaeology supports evolution, micro biology supports evolution, geology supports evolution and many more “ologies” than I care to mention. Isn’t that interesting; multiple scientists in multiple categories all agreeing on one particular issue? And if that still doesn’t satisfy I suggest you try looking around for a scientist that disagrees with evolution that isn’t tied to a religious organization.

“BECAUSE MANKIND LIES!!! People want to believe so much that they are right, that they have the answers. ALL mankind, Christian & non-Christian.”

What happens if a scientist lies about evolution? Pretty much nothing, because other scientists point him out. What happens if a Christian lies about god? Another person goes around trying to pass off faith as fact.

“If you will read John [right after Luke] you will discover why Jesus {God in human form} came to this Earth.”

Why on Earth should I feel any compunction whatsoever to read that again! I pointed out different parts of this “holy” bible that contradict other parts. You just ignored it like I didn’t say anything. Maybe you should try reading something other than your little bible; something like The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, or are you like other Christians I’ve suggested read it; afraid!

“Ken,John you seem to place your understanding in the hands of mankind's self imposed wisdom.”

I have found no wisdom in the bible greater than the wisdom I see of ordinary men. I’ve already told you that at least one part of the OT is provably wrong.

“This is why it is better to trust in God than man.”

Is there anything god has done that is provably god completed? Is there any thing that religion has done for good that required a belief in god?

Ken Weaver

5:51 PM, August 13, 2008  
Blogger John Hosty-Grinnell said...

"Mankind is a fallen race."

Here is the root of the problem I see; it lays in the philosophy of negativity. I see no "doomed society" like some suggest. Actually, I find it odd that the same people that tell us to have faith also tell us how bad everything is.

To me saying that the world is falling apart is a lot like saying you have no faith in God. Do you think he is asleep at the wheel or something? If He is all knowing and all powerful like you think then surely He planned what is happening now too.

Does it make sense for you to second guess God's will and inject your own beliefs as His divine plan? That's not just arrogant, that's hubris. He told us to love each other like ourselves, not find reasons to ignore that great commandment.

The world is fine and it is getting better every day thanks to the ability to share information. We are learning quickly that although people may come from different backgrounds and places we are all essentially the same on the inside; inherently good.

The inherent goodness in all men leads inevitably to learning how to live together as good neighbors as Christ would have us do.

Leviticus 19:18 "You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD."

Why is it so hard for people to see the wisdom of peace?

6:19 PM, August 13, 2008  
Anonymous omd said...

It is impossible to continue to engage in converstaion when one party purposefully sets out to be an antagonist to any thought out reply. Or any reply at all! I have tried to respond to you as best I can and have not purposefully omitted anything. Unfortunately your responses, so many times, are so off the wall that it is near impossible to understand what you are talking about, nevermind addressing.

Ken, it is obvious you do not believe in God and you do not have any room for God in your life. Maybe you are one of the ones that was not given to Jesus, by the Father. It seems, by all appearances, you have a spirit that does not allow you to digest any answer that is posed. You are a smart man but your own arrogance and vanity prevents you from learning or even considering the possibilities that God has for you. You ask if vanity or arrogance is a sin. When used to stir the pot of division I believe they are sins. However, there is no one that is perfect. We are frail and sinful creatures.

The only perfect human is Jesus. He lived, He was crucified and He rose from the dead. He voluntarily left His throne in heaven, emptied Himself of all heavenly privilege and entered this world as a mere human. He experienced human emotion. He laughed. He cried. He got justifiably angry, He sought out sinners and ate with them, spoke with them, taught them, healed them, brought them back from the dead [Lazerus & Tabitha], He stuck up for them [the harlot and the line in the sand], he made himself known to all and people were amazed that when he taught, he taught with the authority of the law not just knowledge of the law, as the other teachers were known. He told sinners "Go and sin no more." Everythng he did was done to convince people that He is who He says He is.

It is up to each of us to accept Him or reject Him. There is no inbetween. There is no playing of word games. There is no arrogance or vanity. There is only humility before the throne of the Creator of ALL, Jesus the Christ. Creator, Savior and Judge.

Read the Gospel witness of Apostle John. Read every word. Digest it all. Chew on it. Ponder it. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand. It is quite apparent you didn't understand one word of John or you have just plain rejected it. If so, that is your choice. If that is your choice then you post to this blog purley as an antagonist and a person bent on being a divisive individual.

9:41 PM, August 19, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“It is impossible to continue to engage in converstaion when one party purposefully sets out to be an antagonist to any thought out reply.”

I wouldn’t be so antagonistic if you would actually answer the questions posed to you.

“I have tried to respond to you as best I can and have not purposefully omitted anything.”

I’m sorry but when you tell me to read the book of John in the bible and I tell you that John says no one has gone to heaven except Jesus and I point out a passage in the OT that says someone else went to heaven and you tell me it wasn’t the right part of heaven I don’t call that a response; I call it evading the question.

“Unfortunately your responses, so many times, are so off the wall that it is near impossible to understand what you are talking about, nevermind addressing.”

Is it so hard to ask for clarification?

“You are a smart man but your own arrogance and vanity prevents you from learning or even considering the possibilities that God has for you.”

I am not a smart man; I never went to a real college or university, I’m just a mechanic. I may be arrogant and vain but no where near as much as Scia in his attitude of other religions and how false they are when he can provide no more evidence that Jesus was god than Jesus was the son of god. You asked me to read a book once; and what did I do? That same day I ordered that book, yet when I suggest something to you, you completely blow me off. I am likely only half as arrogant and vain as you and Scia in your blind faith attitudes and complete intentional ignorance on issues of science and reality.

“The only perfect human is Jesus.”

This whole paragraph abounds with self assured arrogance; your complete dismissal of other ideologies and other possibilities proves there is no room in your heart for other possibilities. I freely say I don’t believe in god; but also say I can’t know for absolute certainty whether or not a god exists. I have room enough for that.

“It is quite apparent you didn't understand one word of John or you have just plain rejected it.”

What is there to understand when John says one thing and the OT says the exact opposite? Am I to ignore those inconsistencies and put blinders on? Which part is the correct part and why? Do you have any comprehension whatsoever that the four gospels differ on parts of Jesus’ life? Are those inconsistencies inconsequential? Since two opposing parts of the bible differ on identical issues, how are we to know which is true and which is false since they plainly cannot both be true simultaneously? Does one provable falsehood in the bible discount the rest of what it has to say?

I don’t generally intend to be antagonistic or arrogant or even vain, but when Christians tell me absolute lies in the hopes of securing my conversion it angers me. Would it not anger you? If enough of one particular group lied about many different things would it not go to fuel some distrust? Is it not unreasonable to look at the way Christians have tried to pass off myth as fact and lied in the hopes of gaining notoriety for the faith that honest Christians would also be viewed as unreliable?

I know many of the questions I ask are difficult to answer, but it’s okay to say “I don’t know” or even better “I’ll ask my spiritual advisor and see what he says.” I can respect those answers but I do not respect evasions and fibs.

Ken Weaver

10:49 PM, August 20, 2008  
Blogger John Hosty-Grinnell said...

Ken, all we are ever going to from this group is evasions and lies. This is what MassResistance is all about. It seems the best we can hope for is to continue to address these evasions and lies so that others will read our words and think about them, drawing their own conclusions rather than arrive at false truths.

I have continued to ask by what terms we can live together in peace privided that we will not see eye to eye on the matter of homosexuality, yet the question is still unanswered. I'll answer it for them; they want to back to the day where GLBT people were in the closet and they were free to insult and torment us without the disdain of the public.

Sadly, they try to use the Bible and Jesus as reason for their intolerance. Apparently loving thy neighbor as yourself is less important than making sure they continue to repress those whom they dislike.

I wonder what the world would be like if they could follow Christ's teachings and love unconditionally as He asked us to. Perhaps then their suffering would be ended and they could learn to live in joy instead of fear, always thinking the worst of everything.

Life is a blessing, not a curse, yet you would never know it talking with Scia and his supporters.

12:15 PM, August 21, 2008  
Blogger SCIA said...

John,

You said:

"I wonder what the world would be like if they could follow Christ's teachings and love unconditionally as He asked us to."

You are trying to compare apples and oranges again. You are trying to juxtapose how people should follow Christ's teachings of loving one another unconditionally, and Christ's teachings on sin, in this case the sin of the homosexual lifestyle.

You say Christ does not think your homosexual lifestyle in NOT sinful and that he accepts you for who you are. He DOES accept you for who you are John, BUT he does NOT accept your sin or my sin. We are the SAME in that sense, but we are DIFFERENT from one another in that you think that you can continue to engage in your homosexual sin and then think Christ accepts this choice of yours.

Please tell me where in the Bible did Christ accept homosexual sin or do you come to the conclusion that He does accept your sin because the Bible says He loves us unconditionally which, again, would be comparing apples and oranges?

7:54 PM, August 22, 2008  
Blogger John Hosty-Grinnell said...

Christ gave us two great commandments: love God and love thy neighbor. Did He say love thy neighbor unless he is a sinner? No, He did not.

There is a great good served by looking past our differences and seeing what human qualities we have in common, and instead concentrating on them. This is an expectation of you that I assume to give back in return. By this simple condition we learn to live as equals in our diverse society and grow together as a nation.

There is room in this nation for all of us to have our individual beliefs yet still have a decent level of respect for those around us that differ in opinion.

America is not great in spite of it's diversity, it's great because of it's diversity. What we need right now is a little old fashioned faith in the idea that God is not asleep at the wheel. You know what faith is, right? ;)

5:54 PM, August 23, 2008  
Blogger SCIA said...

John,

You conclude with:

"America is not great in spite of it's diversity, it's great because of it's diversity. What we need right now is a little old fashioned faith in the idea that God is not asleep at the wheel."

Which brings me to my question in which you tip toed around and did NOT answer:

"Please tell me where in the Bible did Christ accept homosexual sin..."

I can tell you where He did NOT accept this sinful lifestyle in MANY, MANY verses, but I will let you answer first.

7:56 PM, August 30, 2008  
Blogger John Hosty-Grinnell said...

"Please tell me where in the Bible did Christ accept homosexual sin..."

I never said He did. As a matter of fact I challenge you back to come to the table with any quote what so ever that Christ said of homosexuals.

You can put all your eggs in the same basket and proclaim Paul was speaking for Christ, but he seems the only source for this line of thinking. You have said before you have much to share, let's hear it.

What I have said in the past is that Christ spoke often on how to love thy neighbor.

12:09 PM, August 31, 2008  
Blogger SCIA said...

John,

I asked:

"Please tell me where in the Bible did Christ accept homosexual sin..."

You answered:

"I never said He did..."

So, how do you justify your sexual sin with God John??

You said:

"As a matter of fact I challenge you back to come to the table with any quote what so ever that Christ said of homosexuals."

Romans 1:26-27

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Leviticus 18:22

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination."

My favorite because it is right to the point:

New International Version (NIV)
1 Corinthians 6:9

9"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

John,

Read this article:

http://70030.netministry.com/articles_view.asp?articleid=31548&columnid=3801

God bless,

Scia

8:47 PM, September 06, 2008  
Blogger John Hosty-Grinnell said...

Let me say it as plainly as this: I think you and people who you side with have misrepresented the Bible for your own needs.

The reason I can say this with surety is that you have no plan of reconciliation with those with whom you disagree.

Being that you will never convince me that my life is sinful in the eyes of God what is your next step down Christ's path? How do we live as peaceful neighbors given this obstacle?

You seem to simply direct the conversation back to the obstacle instead of answering the question.

People can see this for themselves, they are not fools.

8:29 AM, September 15, 2008  

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