Saturday, February 10, 2007

Is Being Gay a Choice or Innate?

Photobucket - Video and Image HostingWarren Throckmorton, PhD, an Associate Professor of Psychology and Fellow for Psychology and Public Policy at Grove City College wrote a very compelling piece about why some have feelings for the same sex.

Interesting thoughts. Take a look at the article for yourself HERE.

7 Comments:

Blogger Ken Weaver said...

I read the article and he gave no definitive answer on whether a person’s sexuality is inborn or not. He seems to be less worried about a person’s “nature” than whether their actions are “moral.” I believe mandating a religious morality upon the citizenry would be a violation of the freedoms we hold dear.

8:20 PM, February 17, 2007  
Blogger SCIA said...

Ken,

You said:

"I believe mandating a religious morality upon the citizenry would be a violation of the freedoms we hold dear."

In what way, shape, or form is there a "mandating" of a religious morality in the article?

You said:

"I read the article and he gave no definitive answer on whether a person’s sexuality is inborn or not."

Exactly, there is no conclusive evidence to either side. You got the message.

1:08 PM, February 18, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He said people need to make a "value" based judgment about their sexuality. People have differing opinions on whether homosexuality is “moral.” For the general populous to “make a value based judgment” about their sexuality we need to understand that some people do not appreciate “Christian” values, or in a general way religion at all. So, once again it would come down to each person making a decision for themselves that would differ on whether or not they believe homosexuality is wrong. There is only one way to ensure that everyone would come to the same conclusion on this issue, and that would be to mandate a religious point of view for all.

For some reason I am having difficulty signing in, but I am Ken Weaver.

11:07 PM, February 18, 2007  
Blogger SCIA said...

Ken,

You said:

"For the general populous to “make a value based judgment” about their sexuality we need to understand that some people do not appreciate “Christian” values, or in a general way religion at all."

With 86% of the country labeling themselves as Christians and 54% of the states that make up this country voting at the ballot box to do away with SSM, it is pretty clear that "Christian" values predominate and more than half of Americans do not want SSM.

As for your problem with signing in, I find the gooffy "Word Verification" to being quite sensitive with uppercase and lowercase letters. Try to make sure your putting the appropriate case when typing.

Scia

8:20 PM, February 19, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“With 86% of the country labeling themselves as Christians and 54% of the states that make up this country voting at the ballot box to do away with SSM, it is pretty clear that "Christian" values predominate and more than half of Americans do not want SSM.”

So, are you saying we should legislate those Christian beliefs because the majority of American citizens claim to be Christian? Wouldn’t that go against what the founders of this nation tried to uphold? That freedom along with religious freedom is the backbone of our society? Who was the main promoter of religious freedom in those 1770’s? It was the Baptists! They had seen the religious intolerance in their respective governments prior to coming to the “New World” and wanted to be part of a nation that promoted religious freedom for all of its citizenry. The Quakers, Mennonites and the Amish were right with them as well; promoting the hope that a nation without a Christian foundation would provide them to live in peace with their beliefs. If our government was to institute law based solely because of its religious value it would only go to cause more of a backlash against Christianity than we see now today. Think about that for a moment; with Atheists and Agnostics making up less than 14% of the population (based on your 86% Christian figure) look at the fight Christians have had the past decade. No longer are schools promoting prayer, the word “God” being removed from the pledge and our money (close but not quite), the Ten Commandments taken from public property etc. etc. That’s with less than 14% of the population behind it. By enforcing Christianity as a state religion, it would only go to increase the lawsuits filed against those “faith based initiatives” that are causing many Christians to feel as though they are the ones being attacked.

Remember this also: When the first settlers of North America arrived, they wanted to be free to practice their religion because in their original countries there was little to no tolerance of religious diversity. Quite noble until they themselves became the same kind of religious tyrants that they were escaping from. Enforcing their particular beliefs on the Native Americans and anyone else living in their neighborhood. Ironic how the once oppressed can so easily become the oppressors.

It's Ken Weaver again.

10:14 PM, February 20, 2007  
Blogger SCIA said...

Ken,

You are comparing apples and oranges.

You said:
APPLES

"So, are you saying we should legislate those Christian beliefs because the majority of American citizens claim to be Christian?"

What do you think your United States Constitution is doing? Our, yours and mine, own government is based on Judaeo-Christian beliefs and therefor bases its laws on this belief structure. Come on Ken, your smarter than that!!

vs. ORANGES

"Wouldn’t that go against what the founders of this nation tried to uphold? That freedom along with religious freedom is the backbone of our society?"

How am I restricting you from practicing your own religion?? What does this have to do with the constitution???

2:14 PM, February 21, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Our, yours and mine, own government is based on Judaeo-Christian beliefs and therefor bases its laws on this belief structure.”

How is our constitution and governmental structure based on Judeo-Christian beliefs? The U.S. Constitution has no wording whatsoever acknowledging a supreme being, and the other documents regarding our government that do acknowledge a god show no mention of Christ, David, Moses or any other religious figures that I know of. What’s your evidence regarding your statement?

“How am I restricting you from practicing your own religion?? What does this have to do with the constitution???”

When you attempt to mandate certain moralities based on your Christian beliefs you weaken the 1st Amendment and what it was attempting to do. When you violate the meaning of the 1st Amendment you are automatically forcing upon me the morals you believe in; not all, but how far will this fight go? When will the Religious Right be satisfied with the U.S.? When the Ten Commandments are placed on all public property? Maybe when the schools can start having a prayer at the beginning of each class? Or is it when all the dogma from the Bible is placed upon the lap of all American’s? I’ve read much of the Bible (King James version), and I have a difficult time comprehending how so many can look in there and claim to have found God’s love and mercy. Maybe I’m somewhat pessimistic, but what I see in the Bible are the atrocities and what I would call crimes committed against humanity by that same god. If I am to follow a Christian belief, the god of that religion has to follow a moral code I can comprehend. I don’t need to know everything, but the values a god would want his “children” to follow, should in turn be followed by him.


Ken Weaver

7:44 PM, February 21, 2007  

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