Friday, November 24, 2006

"Good"!! - Cynthia Marchand

Emer O'Shea knew something was wrong the minute she picked up her daughter from Franklin Elementary School. The third-grader was normally very perky upon seeing her mother and new baby sister, but this time she glanced at her mother without indicating what was wrong, except to say that the school's social worker had visited the class. But Emer soon heard from another parent about what had happened in her daughter's class that day, and she was both stunned and mortified. The next day her young daughter finally opened up with a question that would baffle most parents of an 8-year-old child, "Mommy, is it possible for a man to have an operation to become a woman?" Read full story here.

I am a little confused. What are the benefits of teaching 8 year-old children about transgenders and transvestites? O.K., O.K. I can understand that diversity and tolerance should be taught...but, and this is a huge but, not by the government run indoctrination camps, AKA public schools. This job is up to the parents of the children attending public school systems. If the parent(s) then want to answer tough questions about transgenderism and write it off as a "teachable moment" then so be it. But don't force your lifestyle on my children and think it is O.K., especially when I am paying taxes for my child to strictly learn about the ABC's and 123's and not about lifestyles that are psychologically unbalanced and dangerous, which is a medical fact and not opinion.
Don't these public schools know that there is a major federal civil rights lawsuit being brought against the Lexington Public School system over very similar circumstances?
I would teach my daughter about different lifestyles if the public school system would teach about Christianity and Judaism. You might be thinking well what about the separation of church and state. Let me tell you something, the phrase church and state does not exist.
The phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the Constitution, but rather is derived from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a group identifying themselves as the Danbury Baptists. In that letter, quoting the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, he writes: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Letter to Danbury Baptists (1802).
Once again, there is a double standard when it comes to teaching about diversity and teaching our children right from wrong.
What do you think?

8 Comments:

Anonymous A concerned citizen said...

This is outrageous! I'm appalled that the Newton
superintendent treated a parent like this!

For Principal Marchand to say
"good" when the parent announces that she is pulling
her daughter out of class??!! a classic wtf moment.

Who the hell do these teachers and administrators
think they are? Reading their responses tells me that
they think they are above the law.

The most pathetic part of this whole story is why a
gay teacher thinks a class of six year-olds gives a
shit about his sexual orientation. To out himself in
a class like that is a craven, manipulative stunt to
make himself feel better. he should just shit down
and shut up!

The reaction of Ms. O'Shea's child is proof positive that
six year olds can't handle that kind of stuff. So why
come out with it?? Just another step in advancing a
gay, lesbo agenda. Nothing more.

I'm even more pissed about reading the background of
the social worker!!! A gay, lesbo activist!!! WTF!!!

Of course, Deval Patrick, governor to be of the divine
socialist paradise probably thinks this is all good
for the children. That transgender types are
mis-understood.

5:35 PM, November 24, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what effect it will have on the child being pulled out of her peer group? Will other kids see her as a religious cook? I think there can be a compromise, and a more graceful opt out than to be so extreme. What if she got to go to recess while this was being taught? You can never protect your kids from what they will learn from the other kids. We should get used to the fact that every once in a while our kids will come in contact with the gays. Even if gay marriage is shot down, it's not like they are going away. We should arm our children with the tools to be successfull rather than try to hide them from the evils in the world. It just seems to me a little nieve this day and age.

8:30 AM, November 26, 2006  
Blogger SCIA said...

Anonymous,

You said:

"I wonder what effect it will have on the child being pulled out of her peer group? Will other kids see her as a religious cook?"

What does this have to do with religion. That is your OWN assumptions, not what is PRESENTED. You don't have to have a religious agenda to know right from wrong.

You said:

"You can never protect your kids from what they will learn from the other kids."

Do you have kids Anonymous? I personally want to see how my daughter LEARNS and APPLIES the lessons LEARNED in class and how she APPLIES them in the real world. Why should this be the case with a "lesson" about transvestites and transgenderism?

When a child learns something in class they naturally think that it is O.K. and right. What is O.K. or right about a lesson on transgenderism Anonymous to an 8 year old girl?

You said:

"We should get used to the fact that every once in a while our kids will come in contact with the gays."

Great, what does that got to do with presenting that lifestyle as a lesson to be learned to children? They can face dangerous behaviors once they get out of the school house. Not everything is learned or experienced under the bell. This situation spells I.N.D.O.C.T.R.I.N.A.T.I.O.N not education.

You Said:

"We should arm our children with the tools to be successfull rather than try to hide them from the evils in the world."

Again, what "tools" are we "arming" them with by teaching them about the dangerous lifestyles of transvestites and transgenderism???

Are you suggesting that transgenderism and transvestite behavior are the "evils in the world?"

12:08 PM, November 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not condoning the teaching at all. What I said was I thought there was a better way to handle it than to pull the girl out of school. I noticed you had nothing to say about my idea of putting her to recess as an opt out of the class. We all have our ideas of what is best for our children to learn, and if we don't like an educational program there are many things we can do about it.

Children are inquizitive by nature. If we don't have answers to what they want to know they will fill in the empty spots with what they learn from the streets. I don't think that is a good idea. What I am saying is arm your children with what you want them to know. If you told your child to raise his hand and ask to be excused if this subject comes up, I think that is very appropriate. We do have to teach our children to be able to live with morals in a world that is not always going to agree with us though. That can be tough, but we have to give them the ability to be successfull in that enviornment. That calls for talking to them, not silencing everybody else. That is an impossible expectation.

3:07 PM, November 26, 2006  
Blogger SCIA said...

Anonymous,

You said:

"I noticed you had nothing to say about my idea of putting her to recess as an opt out of the class."

Fact: Dispite state law which requires parental notification if adults are to discuss homosexuality in the classroom, Mr. David Parker was arrested for requesting that his 6-year-old kindergartner be pulled from his classroom lesson on homosexuality.

I have mentioned this case time and time again on my blog. I am sorry you have not read it yet.

To provide you a crash course of what is going on click here:

http://www.massresistance.com/docs/parker_lawsuit/aclu_brief.html

A child can not simply "raise his hand and ask to be excused if this subject comes up". It is not that easy Anonymous. If that was the case there would not be federal civil rights lawsuits against school officials and the Town of Lexington.

4:08 PM, December 01, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Mr. David Parker was arrested for requesting that his 6-year-old kindergartner be pulled from his classroom lesson on homosexuality."

I don't see how this answers my question at all. It seems you want me to talk about Mr. Parker, so let's.

The reports I read say that David Parker was arrested for disorderly conduct, and disobeying a police officer. Are you saying that is not true? There is a right way and a wrong way to go about getting what you want in life.

Some people like to grandstand. I don't think it looks good on anyone. The pride parade is every bit as much an abomination as Rev. Phelps and his sideshow following. Parker could have simply kept his kid at home until he sorted out the details of what he wants her taught in. I agree with his right to have his children learn what he wishes, I object to his behavior.

Personally I think that the gay world can accomplish what it wishes without having to shock the rest of the world too. If we teach violence is wrong, we have to cite some examples in order to help kids understand. In order to teach discrimination is wrong, again we have to cite examples. If our children are going to live in a state that promotes full equality we do have to help them understand what that encompasses. They cannot interact as healthy citizens without this fundamental knowledge.

If someone like Mr. Parker objects to what the school wants to teach, he is not obligated to keep his child in that school. He has options, and a moral responibility to conduct himself as a gentleman.

11:23 AM, December 02, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

public schools teach the public,
not just your children.

end of discussion.

12:29 PM, December 04, 2006  
Blogger alec silver said...

Nobody is trying to convince your children to have a sex change. The problem is the GLBT community as a whole is viewed as disgusting child touching perverts. This is a terrible and sad thing. If you think that teaching your kids of these things will harm their psychology, then think of all the damage you have inflicted on your kid if he turns out to be GLBT. But I am not sure that forcing kids into lessons is the right way to solve the problem. I think a better way would to be to add openly GLBT faculty members into the staff, which would help show that they are real people too.

4:51 PM, December 04, 2006  

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